Legislature(2019 - 2020)ADAMS ROOM 519

03/18/2019 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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01:35:09 PM Start
01:35:40 PM Alaska Municipal League Budget Discussion
02:31:46 PM City of Unalaska
02:44:54 PM Aleutians East Borough
02:50:01 PM City of Valdez
03:07:07 PM Mat-su Borough
03:16:13 PM North Slope Borough
03:33:35 PM Adjourn
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                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                      March 18, 2019                                                                                            
                         1:35 p.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:35:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster called the House Finance Committee meeting                                                                      
to order at 1:35 p.m.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Neal Foster, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Tammie Wilson, Co-Chair                                                                                          
Representative Jennifer Johnston, Vice-Chair                                                                                    
Representative Dan Ortiz, Vice-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Ben Carpenter                                                                                                    
Representative Andy Josephson                                                                                                   
Representative Gary Knopp                                                                                                       
Representative Bart LeBon                                                                                                       
Representative Kelly Merrick                                                                                                    
Representative Colleen Sullivan-Leonard                                                                                         
Representative Cathy Tilton                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Nils  Andreassen,   Executive  Director,   Alaska  Municipal                                                                    
League;  Frank   Kelty,  Mayor,  City  of   Unalaska;  Brian                                                                    
Carlson,  Finance Director,  City  of  Valdez; Vern  Halter,                                                                    
Mayor, Mat-Su Borough; John  Moosey, Borough Manager, Mat-Su                                                                    
Borough;  Fadil Limani,  Deputy Director  of Finance,  North                                                                    
Slope Borough.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Alvin Osterback, Mayor, Aleutians East Borough                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
ALASKA MUNICIPAL LEAGUE BUDGET DISCUSSION                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:35:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster reviewed the meeting agenda.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^ALASKA MUNICIPAL LEAGUE BUDGET DISCUSSION                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:35:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NILS  ANDREASSEN,   EXECUTIVE  DIRECTOR,   ALASKA  MUNICIPAL                                                                    
LEAGUE,   provided   a    PowerPoint   presentation   titled                                                                    
"Municipal  Impact Analysis"  (copy on  file). He  clarified                                                                    
that he was not an economist  or an attorney. He shared that                                                                    
the Alaska  Municipal League (AML) had  evaluated the impact                                                                    
of the governor's  proposed FY 20 budget to the  best of its                                                                    
understanding.  He hoped  to provide  the  committee with  a                                                                    
sense  of  that  understanding   and  intended  to  call  up                                                                    
additional    presenters    to   provide    more    in-depth                                                                    
presentations on  various communities.  He began on  slide 1                                                                    
and reported that  AML was older than the state  at 69 years                                                                    
of age.  The organization  included 165  incorporated cities                                                                    
and  boroughs  - political  subdivisions  of  the state.  He                                                                    
clarified  that subdivision  pertained  to taxing  authority                                                                    
and fulfilling state obligations at a local level.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen highlighted that one  of the primary goals of                                                                    
the   organization   was   to    advocate   on   behalf   of                                                                    
municipalities  to  secure  beneficial  legislation  and  to                                                                    
oppose  legislation injurious  to municipalities.  He shared                                                                    
that the  principals of sustainability,  predictability, and                                                                    
affordability put forward in  the governor's budget strategy                                                                    
also  applied at  the local  level. He  elaborated that  AML                                                                    
reviewed  the  three principals  as  they  applied to  local                                                                    
government [slide 1]:                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
    Sustainable  communities where residents can find                                                                        
     employment and a satisfactory quality of life, for the                                                                     
     long-term                                                                                                                  
    Predictable     communities   where   taxpayers   see                                                                    
     reasonable tax rate changes staggered over time, and                                                                       
     that provision of services are not disrupted                                                                               
    Affordable  communities where the combination of low                                                                     
     or stable taxes and consistent government investment                                                                       
     reduces resident and business transaction costs                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:38:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen  moved to  slide 2  and addressed  direct and                                                                    
indirect fiscal  impacts of the governor's  proposed budget.                                                                    
He remarked  that it  was much more  difficult to  look into                                                                    
secondary  and  tertiary impacts  at  the  local level,  but                                                                    
there  clearly  would  be  both.  He  noted  that  while  an                                                                    
economist would  look for certainty  in the  evaluation, AML                                                                    
looked  for reasonability  or  plausibility.  He began  with                                                                    
direct municipal  impacts and reviewed  the top  three items                                                                    
including petroleum property  tax, shared fisheries business                                                                    
tax, and shared fisheries  resource landing tax. He detailed                                                                    
the  three   items  constituted   preemption  -   the  state                                                                    
preempting what was  rightfully a local tax  and keeping the                                                                    
tax only  at the state level.  He moved to school  bond debt                                                                    
reimbursement   and  reported   that  the   repeal  of   the                                                                    
reimbursement  would shift  almost  $1 billion  in costs  to                                                                    
municipalities over 16  to 19 years (more  than $100 million                                                                    
in FY 20).                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen continued to  review direct municipal impacts                                                                    
that would  result from the  governor's proposed  budget. He                                                                    
detailed that the  proposed cut to education  in addition to                                                                    
the removal of  $30 million appropriated for FY  20 was just                                                                    
under $300 million. The proposed  repeal of capital projects                                                                    
in  HB 528,  which would  shift $32  million to  communities                                                                    
over the life  of those debts. He detailed  that those debts                                                                    
had been  taken on  by municipalities  to support  ports and                                                                    
harbors that were transferred from  the state in poor repair                                                                    
to municipalities  in order to  support local  community and                                                                    
economic development.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen  noted there was  a proposal to add  or share                                                                    
an  alcohol  tax with  municipalities  on  top of  community                                                                    
assistance, which would result  in an additional $20 million                                                                    
(the only  positive number -  represented in black -  on the                                                                    
slide). He noted  the slide did not include  the other black                                                                    
number - the waiving of  bingo fees, which was around $1,600                                                                    
for the municipalities that used  bingo as a revenue source.                                                                    
Other direct  impacts would result from  proposed reductions                                                                    
to   harbor  grants,   the  Online   with  Libraries   (OWL)                                                                    
broadband, local  emergency planning, transit match  used by                                                                    
municipalities  to offset  costs for  low-income and  senior                                                                    
transportation,  and the  health service  community matching                                                                    
grant. He added  that AML had been able to  add new items to                                                                    
the list every few days.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen  addressed indirect municipal impacts  on the                                                                    
right side  of slide  2. He relayed  the McDowell  Group had                                                                    
estimated that  for every  $1 in  General Fund  reduction to                                                                    
the  Alaska  Marine Highway  System  (AMHS),  it would  take                                                                    
$2.30 out  of the economy,  which totaled a minimum  of $8.7                                                                    
million for coastal communities.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:43:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Andreassen  noted  that   state  government  staff  and                                                                    
spending  reductions impacted  the  overall unfunded  Public                                                                    
Employees'  Retirement System  (PERS)  debt.  He used  5,000                                                                    
jobs  as  an  example  with 22  or  28.5  percent  actuarily                                                                    
determined numbers,  it would shift around  $25 million onto                                                                    
the balance  sheets of municipalities.  He clarified  it did                                                                    
not shift  an additional  payment to municipalities,  but it                                                                    
shifted a  payment back  to the  state for  their additional                                                                    
contribution of $143 million.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen continued to discuss  indirect impacts of the                                                                    
proposed budget on  slide 2. He referenced  a McDowell Group                                                                    
study showing that  for every $1 in  General Fund reductions                                                                    
to the  University of Alaska, $3  would be taken out  of the                                                                    
economy. He  detailed that AML  had applied local  tax rates                                                                    
to  the number,  which  resulted in  about  $20 million.  He                                                                    
reported  that  AML was  not  able  to assess  the  indirect                                                                    
impact  on  municipalities   of  early  childhood  education                                                                    
reductions.  He  moved to  healthcare  and  relayed that  if                                                                    
Medicaid  reductions  over  the   last  several  years  were                                                                    
reduced by about  30 percent it resulted in a  loss of about                                                                    
$17  million. He  noted  that AML  had  not quantified  what                                                                    
public   assistance   or   other  elements   of   healthcare                                                                    
reductions would be for municipalities.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen discussed that  while the governor's proposal                                                                    
included  FY  19 and  FY  20  distributions for  Power  Cost                                                                    
Equalization  (PCE) and  community  assistance,  it did  not                                                                    
appear to AML that taking  away the funds' corpus would lead                                                                    
to sustainability, predictability,  or affordability for the                                                                    
communities  depending on  the two  items. He  discussed the                                                                    
importance  of   the  two  items  and   reported  that  when                                                                    
community revenue  sharing went away  for a number  of years                                                                    
in the early 2000s,  14 municipalities had ceased operations                                                                    
and  25  percent  of municipalities  with  sales  taxes  had                                                                    
increased those  taxes during that period.  He stressed that                                                                    
PCE and  community assistance were critical,  especially for                                                                    
smaller communities.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:46:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson reported  that  the committee  had                                                                    
heard  from  the  state's   economist  that  the  governor's                                                                    
proposals   could  lead   to   the   dissolution  of   local                                                                    
governments,  which he  had found  surprising. He  asked for                                                                    
detail  on Mr.  Andreassen's testimony  that 14  communities                                                                    
had   dissolved   when   the  state   had   reformed   local                                                                    
contributions.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Andreassen replied  that Legislative  Research Services                                                                    
had  generated a  report for  Senator Gary  Stevens in  2006                                                                    
that talked about 14 communities  that had ceased operations                                                                    
on a day-to-day basis. He  underscored that the numbers were                                                                    
especially  critical at  the very  small  community level  -                                                                    
where  taking 75  percent or  more of  a local  government's                                                                    
budget - the discussed impact would be a very real option.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative LeBon asked about  the $904 million reduction                                                                    
to school bond  debt reimbursement. He asked if  there was a                                                                    
way  to provide  a breakdown  showing how  the $105  million                                                                    
reduction  in   FY  20  would  be   spread  across  impacted                                                                    
communities.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen noted  he would answer the  question in three                                                                    
slides. He turned  to slide 3 and  highlighted various areas                                                                    
that defined  different local governments  based on  the 165                                                                    
communities   under  AML   membership.   He  detailed   that                                                                    
community  assistance was  the only  item that  impacted all                                                                    
communities,  whereas,  PCE  impacted  115 out  of  165.  He                                                                    
reported  that the  Department  of  Commerce, Community  and                                                                    
Economic  Development, Division  of  Community and  Regional                                                                    
Affairs   had   been   working  through   identifying   when                                                                    
communities   were  stressed,   which   often  appeared   as                                                                    
struggling to  keep up  with the cost  of compliance  at the                                                                    
state or federal  levels. He pointed out  that 7 communities                                                                    
would  be  impacted  by  the  proposal  to  shift  petroleum                                                                    
property  taxes to  the state  and 21  communities would  be                                                                    
impacted by the repeal of school bond debt reimbursement.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:49:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen moved to slide 4  and shared that each of the                                                                    
different  items   on  the  slide   impacted  a   number  of                                                                    
communities differently.  Community assistance  impacted the                                                                    
largest number  of communities  at a  total of  $30 million;                                                                    
however,  for the  7 communities  impacted by  the petroleum                                                                    
property tax the impact was  $439 million, and the reduction                                                                    
to   21   communities   impacted   by   school   bond   debt                                                                    
reimbursement  was  $105  million.  The  bulk  of  the  cost                                                                    
shifting  or  cuts was  felt  by  a  very small  portion  of                                                                    
municipalities  and were  felt  most  significantly by  that                                                                    
same group.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz  referenced the 34 communities  impacted by                                                                    
reductions to  AMHS [slide 3].  He asked if  the communities                                                                    
represented the 34 ports AMHS served.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen replied affirmatively.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz asked for verification  that the number did                                                                    
not include communities that would  be impacted that may not                                                                    
have a direct port-call but  were located nearby and reliant                                                                    
on AMHS.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen replied in the  affirmative. He pointed to an                                                                    
error  on  slide   3  and  corrected  that   the  number  of                                                                    
communities impacted by PERS participation was 64.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen turned to a  table on slide 5 and highlighted                                                                    
a list  of the  20 hardest  hit municipalities.  He detailed                                                                    
that AML had  calculated the total gross impact  for each of                                                                    
the municipalities'  FY 20  school bond  debt reimbursement,                                                                    
education  reduction,  petroleum  property  tax  preemption,                                                                    
fisheries  business  tax  and  fisheries  business  resource                                                                    
landing tax  preemption, AMHS implications,  capital project                                                                    
cost-shifting,  University of  Alaska implications,  and had                                                                    
added the  alcohol tax back  in. The total  impact reflected                                                                    
the  transit  matching,  OWL  broadband,  and  other  direct                                                                    
impacts   he  had   listed  earlier.   Almost  all   of  the                                                                    
municipalities  on the  list  were  boroughs, home-rule,  or                                                                    
first class cities.  The table showed the total  impact as a                                                                    
percentage  of each  municipality's  FY 18  tax revenue  and                                                                    
listed a  comparable number  in terms  of what  an increased                                                                    
tax  may  look  like;  it   also  showed  the  impact  as  a                                                                    
percentage of  total revenue and  per capita (what  it would                                                                    
require for  every resident  in a community  to make  up for                                                                    
cuts  or  cost  shifting).   He  referenced  a  question  by                                                                    
Representative LeBon  and noted  the same  information could                                                                    
be compiled for every community.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:53:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Sullivan-Leonard  asked  about  the  table's                                                                    
information showing  AMHS income  generation that may  be in                                                                    
the  Mat-Su Borough.  She recalled  that  when the  McDowell                                                                    
Group  had   presented  the  previous  year,   much  of  the                                                                    
discussion  had been  about  getting  individuals from  AMHS                                                                    
through  Mat-Su  to  Fairbanks and  ultimately  Denali.  She                                                                    
asked how the $250,000 had been derived by AML.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen answered that he  believed the numbers in the                                                                    
table were under  representative of AMHS's impact  on any of                                                                    
the communities  shown. He explained  that it had  only been                                                                    
possible  to apply  the  figure of  $2.30  per resident  (in                                                                    
terms of  statewide economic  activity) for  all communities                                                                    
(the  figure could  be applied  directly according  to sales                                                                    
tax for communities with a sales  tax). For AMHS he had used                                                                    
a flat  number to  come up  with what it  may look  like for                                                                    
boroughs or  other cities without  a sales tax or  port. The                                                                    
estimate  was  rough and  reflected  a  placeholder until  a                                                                    
deeper dive could be conducted.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Sullivan-Leonard  planned  to  look  at  the                                                                    
McDowell  Group project  analysis for  AMHS. She  understood                                                                    
the tax percentage component of  the calculation made by AML                                                                    
but  thought there  was deeper  quantitative  data that  may                                                                    
change the numbers drastically.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilson  surmised that according  to the  table, the                                                                    
proposed  reductions   would  cost  each  resident   in  the                                                                    
Fairbanks North  Star Borough $577. She  stated residents in                                                                    
her  district   would  prefer  that  along   with  a  $3,000                                                                    
Permanent Fund Dividend (PFD) instead of a cut to the PFD.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen replied it would be one takeaway.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilson   observed  that  even  though   the  table                                                                    
included  the $577  for the  Fairbanks  North Star  Borough,                                                                    
there  was not  necessarily an  increase to  the borough  on                                                                    
most  of the  reductions  because of  its  revenue cap.  She                                                                    
surmised  that   it  would  require  the   borough  to  make                                                                    
government  smaller. She  believed  there were  quite a  few                                                                    
communities  with revenue  caps. She  wondered if  the issue                                                                    
had been  taken into consideration  in the data in  order to                                                                    
know  which  communities  would   have  the  opportunity  to                                                                    
increase  sales  or  property taxes  and  which  communities                                                                    
would not  have the opportunity  to increase taxes due  to a                                                                    
revenue cap.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:57:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen  replied that he  would look at  the question                                                                    
in the coming slide.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilson  thought it was unlikely  the information on                                                                    
the  slide was  what  AML  meant to  show.  For example,  an                                                                    
impact of  $446 per  person in Anchorage  was better  than a                                                                    
$600 or $1,000 PFD.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Knopp  looked at total impact  and tax impact                                                                    
for  the Kenai  Borough shown  in the  last four  columns on                                                                    
slide 5. He asked if the  presenter had gone to the boroughs                                                                    
to determine  their total taxable  values and mill  rates to                                                                    
get the data.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen  replied that the question  built on Co-Chair                                                                    
Wilson's question. He  stated that AML was leaving  it up to                                                                    
the municipalities  to determine their actual  potential tax                                                                    
increase. The  information used on  the slide  used publicly                                                                    
available  data;  AML   did  not  have  FY   19  actuals  or                                                                    
management plans or FY 20  budgets. The table reflected what                                                                    
AML was  able to calculate  with the information it  had. He                                                                    
intended  to discuss  what the  options looked  like at  the                                                                    
local   level.  Additionally,   there  were   a  number   of                                                                    
presenters  who would  talk  specifically  about impacts  to                                                                    
their communities.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:59:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Andreassen moved  to slide  6 and  addressed the  total                                                                    
impact to  the top  20 municipalities  [listed on  slide 5].                                                                    
The total  was roughly $857,290,065 representing  93 percent                                                                    
of  Alaskans.  He  noted  the total  for  all  Alaskans  was                                                                    
roughly  $888 million.  He reviewed  additional data  on the                                                                    
slide:                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
  Top 20 Median impact related to tax revenue = 76.31%                                                                       
    Top 20 Median impact related to total revenue = 51.13%                                                                   
    Top 20 Median impact per capita = $1486                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Andreassen remarked  that it  was possible  to look  at                                                                    
individual  municipalities and  say that  an impact  of $477                                                                    
[per  resident] was  not much;  however, when  spreading the                                                                    
cuts across all municipalities  the impact was much greater.                                                                    
He explained it  would mean weighing a $3,000  PFD against a                                                                    
potential  $1,500  cut  to  services  or  cost  shifting  to                                                                    
municipalities. He  continued with  slide 6 and  reported it                                                                    
was clear that  17 municipalities would have  a total impact                                                                    
of  greater  than   50  percent  of  their   budget  and  10                                                                    
municipalities with  an impact  of greater than  80 percent.                                                                    
He  referenced an  earlier question  about what  happened to                                                                    
municipalities  that  no  longer   had  revenue  to  sustain                                                                    
themselves. Out  of the 165  municipalities, there  were 106                                                                    
negatively    impacted;   32    municipalities   would    be                                                                    
significantly negatively impacted at  $2 million or more. He                                                                    
reported  that  some  municipalities  would  benefit  if  an                                                                    
alcohol tax passed, but the  vast majority would not. The 20                                                                    
municipalities  representing 93  percent  of Alaskans  would                                                                    
really struggle under the proposed budget.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen moved  to slide 7 and  addressed total impact                                                                    
by  district.  He noted  the  information  was not  additive                                                                    
because municipalities were often shared by districts.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:01:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Andreassen   turned  to  slide  8   and  reported  that                                                                    
municipalities  would not  all feel  the full  brunt of  the                                                                    
impacts because  there were barriers  to their  response. He                                                                    
referenced  Co-Chair Wilson's  mention of  voter-imposed tax                                                                    
caps.  He  detailed that  7  of  the 20  municipalities  had                                                                    
voter-imposed tax  caps, meaning that  for some of  the cuts                                                                    
or cost  shifts those communities could  not increase taxes.                                                                    
When  it came  to school  bond debt  reimbursement the  vast                                                                    
majority of  the municipalities  could increase  their taxes                                                                    
above the  tax cap, but  7 of the 20  would hit a  limit and                                                                    
would not have the ability  to increase taxes without voters                                                                    
changing the cap.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen moved  to the second bullet point  on slide 8                                                                    
and  relayed that  it  was already  a  struggle to  maintain                                                                    
stable  budgets and  taxes. There  were 50  communities that                                                                    
budgeted for more expenses than  revenues in FY 17 including                                                                    
7 of the  20 hardest hit by the  governor's proposed budget.                                                                    
Already, municipalities  had seen large reductions  in their                                                                    
budgets  and were  struggling to  continue  making the  best                                                                    
decisions  they  could in  the  interest  of residents.  The                                                                    
third bullet  point highlighted that PERS  participation was                                                                    
one  of the  barriers to  response  (100 percent  of the  20                                                                    
hardest  hit   municipalities  participated  in   PERS).  He                                                                    
elaborated  that the  elimination of  a class  or department                                                                    
would trigger a costly termination study.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Andreassen continued  to review  slide  8. He  reviewed                                                                    
that  the  education  minimum  required  local  contribution                                                                    
could  be   decreased.  He  noted   there  was   still  some                                                                    
conversation about  whether the  change would  be a  good or                                                                    
bad  thing  for  municipalities  -  whether  they  would  be                                                                    
expected to  make up  the difference  or whether  a prorated                                                                    
reduction would  be limited. It  could be that  some portion                                                                    
of the  education reductions could  not be made up  by local                                                                    
school districts.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:03:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Sullivan-Leonard asked  if Mr. Andreassen had                                                                    
spoken with  the Division of  Retirement and  Benefits (DRB)                                                                    
director  on their  opinion regarding  a termination  study.                                                                    
She thought it  was an important component.  She stated that                                                                    
if the  impact hit  local governments  harshly and  may cost                                                                    
jobs, the legislature needed to see the information.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen  replied that AML  had the  conversation with                                                                    
DRB but did not want to  speak for the division. He believed                                                                    
it was a  topic worth diving into. The state  did not have a                                                                    
termination study and  there were three or  so components of                                                                    
a study,  each with  varying costs. Some  of the  costs were                                                                    
merely to conduct the study  and some addressed the unfunded                                                                    
pension  liability.  There  were  some good  things  from  a                                                                    
termination  study  and some  good  things  to be  addressed                                                                    
within the studies.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Sullivan-Leonard agreed. She  asked if it was                                                                    
information  that  Mr.  Andreassen   could  provide  to  the                                                                    
committee.  She wanted  to know  the what  the ramifications                                                                    
would be  if the  [governor's proposed budget]  bill passed.                                                                    
She  requested  to see  the  information  from DRB  to  help                                                                    
understand the trickle-down effect to local governments.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen agreed.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Johnston referenced that  the state had paid down                                                                    
some of  the unfunded liability.  She stated there  had been                                                                    
an extension to  the tail [of the liability].  She noted the                                                                    
cost  would be  to other  employers and  not the  state. She                                                                    
hoped AML took the concept into consideration.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Andreassen replied  that AML's  understanding was  that                                                                    
termination  studies were  an anachronism.  He detailed  the                                                                    
studies had been developed with  good intentions but were no                                                                    
longer necessary.  It remained that  PERS had a  net pension                                                                    
liability, which was  felt by all employers,  and when there                                                                    
was  a  shift  or  reduction by  the  largest  employer,  it                                                                    
impacted  all other  employers. He  noted the  issue was  of                                                                    
concern to AML.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:06:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen continued to address  slide 8. He highlighted                                                                    
that each  of the  top 20  municipalities had  different tax                                                                    
bases and  were not all created  equal; 4 of the  top 20 had                                                                    
no property  tax -  there was  little probable  property tax                                                                    
beyond  things   like  the  fisheries  tax   that  would  be                                                                    
considered  preempted, which  made it  extremely challenging                                                                    
for many  of the municipalities  to adjust. He  explained it                                                                    
would  not  merely  be  a question  of  raising  taxes,  the                                                                    
municipalities  would be  fundamentally challenged  in their                                                                    
ability to  respond. He relayed  that the  59 municipalities                                                                    
that would be significantly  negatively impacted and all but                                                                    
one of  the top  20, carried  quite a  bit of  debt totaling                                                                    
$3.2  billion  in   general  obligation/revenue  bonds.  The                                                                    
municipalities    were   contributing    to   infrastructure                                                                    
development  (including  schools)  and any  shifts  or  cuts                                                                    
would compound the debt obligations.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:08:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen  advanced to slide 9  and addressed municipal                                                                    
choices. He  reported that  communities could  deficit spend                                                                    
and take from  savings - they could choose to  cover some of                                                                    
the deficit  that may  be felt from  proposed cuts  and cost                                                                    
shifts. The  length of  time the  option could  be sustained                                                                    
varied  for each  municipality.  He reported  it was  likely                                                                    
that  those municipalities  that  would be  the hardest  hit                                                                    
could not  survive the  cuts and cost  shifts for  more than                                                                    
several  years. In  the short-term,  deficit spending  would                                                                    
reduce  cash  on  hand  to   cover  emergency  expenses.  He                                                                    
reported   that   AML   believed   it   was   critical   for                                                                    
municipalities to  have cash  on hand  to cover  things like                                                                    
public  safety  and  emergency  response.  He  relayed  that                                                                    
deficit spending  impacted credit ratings or  worthiness. He                                                                    
imagined  that  assemblies  and taxpayers  objected  to  the                                                                    
erosion of those investments.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Andreassen   moved  to  slide  10   and  addressed  tax                                                                    
increases as the second  choice available to municipalities.                                                                    
He reported that an increase  in taxes would not accommodate                                                                    
the full  scale of  cost shifts or  cuts. He  explained that                                                                    
locations without a  cap would be limited by  the actual tax                                                                    
base. He  noted it  would be  felt differently  by different                                                                    
regions  of  the  state  -  their  ability  to  respond  was                                                                    
sensitive to their conditions. He  relayed that voters would                                                                    
have to approve  a cap change - it was  only possible to tax                                                                    
a certain amount before economic  and living conditions were                                                                    
threatened.  He  highlighted  that  taxes  were  statutorily                                                                    
mandated  for   boroughs.  Additionally,  where   the  state                                                                    
preempted  tax  collection  in the  form  of  the  petroleum                                                                    
property  tax or  shared fisheries  taxes, it  was likely  a                                                                    
different tax would  have to be considered. He  noted it was                                                                    
a critical element of the subdivision of sovereignty.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:10:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Andreassen  moved to  slide  11  and addressed  program                                                                    
elimination    as   the    third    choice   available    to                                                                    
municipalities.  He  detailed  that municipal  budgets  were                                                                    
comprised  of three  buckets: public  safety, public  works,                                                                    
and quality  of life.  He informed  the committee  that many                                                                    
municipalities had told AML their  first line of options was                                                                    
to eliminate quality  of life programs (i.e.  parks and rec,                                                                    
community pools,  libraries, and grants to  nonprofits). The                                                                    
second and third line of  response would be to reduce public                                                                    
safety and  public works investments. For  instance, reduced                                                                    
law enforcement  for the 70 communities  with police powers.                                                                    
When it  came to public  works, many municipalities  took on                                                                    
road repair, snow removal,  ports/harbor upgrades, and solid                                                                    
waste.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson referenced  the last  bullet point                                                                    
on  slide  10  related  to   the  critical  element  of  the                                                                    
subdivision    of    sovereignty.   He    understood    that                                                                    
municipalities were creatures of the  state. He asked if AML                                                                    
was claiming  that local governments  shared in some  of the                                                                    
sovereignty. He asked if the  statement was philosophical or                                                                    
merely that the preemption treaded  on a prerogative. He was                                                                    
trying to understand the meaning of the bullet point.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Andreassen   replied  that   the  statement   was  both                                                                    
philosophical and  a reality. In terms  of municipalities as                                                                    
political subdivisions of the  state, the subdivision was of                                                                    
the state's sovereignty.  Taxation of powers was  one of the                                                                    
key elements of  the sovereignty - when  the state preempted                                                                    
the collection it threatened  the fulfillment of sovereignty                                                                    
at the local level.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Johnston  noted that the  state had the  power of                                                                    
taxation.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen replied in the affirmative.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Johnston  remarked that  the point [on  slide 10]                                                                    
was more philosophical.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Andreassen  answered   that  the   state  constitution                                                                    
highlighted  that  the  state  shared  taxation  with  local                                                                    
governments. He stated that in  AML's mind it was less about                                                                    
"allow" and  more about constitutionally arguing  that local                                                                    
governments  had  the  power.  He  added  that  statutorily,                                                                    
boroughs were required to tax.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:13:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Johnston looked  at slide 11 and  pointed out the                                                                    
impact  reducing  municipal  employees  had  on  termination                                                                    
studies and additional costs to municipalities.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Andreassen moved  to  slide 12  and  stated there  were                                                                    
implications  from each  of  the  choices. The  presentation                                                                    
considered  the choices  as three  options, but  in reality,                                                                    
there was likely no single choice  that would be made at the                                                                    
local level.  He looked at one  plausible scenario regarding                                                                    
shared fish  taxes. He reported that  in AML's conversations                                                                    
with  affected communities,  the taxes  and or  moorage fees                                                                    
would  increase. Additionally,  seafood prices  would remain                                                                    
low  or flat;  small  vessels would  not  make their  needed                                                                    
revenue  to  remain  open;  local  or  small  vessels  would                                                                    
potentially have  to sell  off to  larger fleets;  and fleet                                                                    
consolidation would accrue to outside owners.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:15:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Sullivan-Leonard asked for  an example of how                                                                    
the shared  fish tax  system worked.  She wondered  if there                                                                    
was a  memorandum of agreement  between the state  and local                                                                    
communities that collected the tax.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen  relayed there would  be presenters  later in                                                                    
the meeting  that could speak  more in depth on  shared fish                                                                    
taxes.   Additionally,  he   would  follow   up  with   more                                                                    
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Andreassen continued  with slide  12. He  reported that                                                                    
shared  fish tax  funds  were used  to  maintain and  repair                                                                    
ports  and  harbors.  The  governor's  proposal  would  mean                                                                    
maintenance  and  repair  of  ports  and  harbors  would  be                                                                    
diminished - state transferred  assets would increasingly be                                                                    
unable  to  serve  seafood   or  tourist  industries.  Local                                                                    
governments would  have to  consider additional  taxes where                                                                    
none exist. Additionally, there  would be duplicate industry                                                                    
taxing and decreased economic growth.  He explained that the                                                                    
scenario was  plausible and had  been seen  historically; it                                                                    
was a  scenario that local governments  were concerned about                                                                    
and were working to avoid.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:16:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen  moved to slide  13 and addressed  a scenario                                                                    
pertaining to  school bond debt. He  explained that spending                                                                    
caps could  be increased for  debt obligations. There  was a                                                                    
limit  to how  much  tax a  local  community could  sustain;                                                                    
therefore, municipalities would have  to choose between debt                                                                    
obligations and funding schools  above the basic minimum. He                                                                    
highlighted   that  where   bonding  occurred   through  the                                                                    
Municipal  Bond Bank  it represented  a moral  obligation of                                                                    
the state. He  noted that default reverted to  the state. He                                                                    
clarified that AML believed  municipalities would meet their                                                                    
debt  obligations.  He  noted the  issue  was  an  important                                                                    
component of  the scenario.  He pointed  out that  those who                                                                    
bonded  independently may  have  tied bonds  to the  state's                                                                    
moral obligation  and/or and anticipated tax  base - default                                                                    
could  result in  legal ramifications.  He emphasized  there                                                                    
was  no  believe  that   municipalities  would  default  but                                                                    
walking through the scenarios was important.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Andreassen  moved to  slide  14  and addressed  choices                                                                    
combined  and the  micro-implications.  He  stated that  the                                                                    
choices  combined would  have an  impact on  communities and                                                                    
local and small businesses. He  explained it was possible to                                                                    
select  any point  on  the  wheel (shown  on  slide 14)  and                                                                    
consider the  plausibility at the  local level.  He detailed                                                                    
that any small  change to a local government's  budget or to                                                                    
a small  community could  trigger any  one of  the different                                                                    
things shown on  slide 14 in a way  that negatively impacted                                                                    
local government, residents, schools, and the economy.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:18:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilson asked  if Mr.  Andreassen was  saying there                                                                    
was   no   place   that   local   governments   could   make                                                                    
efficiencies.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen  answered that he  was not implying  that. He                                                                    
believed there were many  local governments actively working                                                                    
to  find  efficiencies.  He  detailed   it  was  an  ongoing                                                                    
conversation  as part  of a  best practices  discussion that                                                                    
local governments  were working to right-size,  decrease, or                                                                    
find efficiencies on a daily basis.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilson appreciated the  numbers, but she thought it                                                                    
was sending  the wrong message  that if any  reductions were                                                                    
made that  communities would dissolve.  She did  not believe                                                                    
that was  necessarily the  case. She  knew that  the smaller                                                                    
the  communities were,  there was  likely little  adjustment                                                                    
they could make. She thought  everyone would have to tighten                                                                    
everything up  and work together. She  thought the portrayal                                                                    
was almost an  "us against you" picture. She  hoped that was                                                                    
not what the presentation was supposed to show.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen  answered that  it was  not the  intention to                                                                    
imply  that  there  was  not  a  negotiated  process  and  a                                                                    
conversation that  did and should  take place  between local                                                                    
and  state  governments. He  stated  it  was something  that                                                                    
happened over time and both  sides were at the table working                                                                    
through. He  stated that would  feel like a good  process to                                                                    
AML.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz  thought it was  safe to also say  that the                                                                    
communities  throughout the  state had  been forced  to find                                                                    
reductions in recent  years as budgets had  been reduced. He                                                                    
cited reductions to community  revenue sharing as an example                                                                    
of  a   reduction  that  had  forced   communities  to  find                                                                    
efficiencies in the past.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:21:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster   allowed  another   10  minutes   for  the                                                                    
presentation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Andreassen shared  that AML  had asked  its members  to                                                                    
send  in   municipal  impact  statements  showing   how  the                                                                    
governor's proposal impact communities  and tradeoffs at the                                                                    
local  level.  He  continued  to   slide  15  and  addressed                                                                    
scenario development for the City of Kodiak:                                                                                    
   The combined reductions and cost-shifting will mean that                                                                     
   the City of Kodiak anticipates:                                                                                              
      Potential staff reductions = 13 of 133                                                                                 
      Public Safety budget reduced by 8%                                                                                     
      Public Works budget reduced by 8%                                                                                      
      Harbor budget reduced by  1 FTE  (lack of  need for                                                                    
        officers at AMHS Terminal and loss of revenue ($                                                                        
        50,000) at Pier I and II                                                                                                
      Quality of  Life  programs  potentially  eliminated                                                                    
        include the Kodiak Public Library and Parks and                                                                         
        Recreation programs                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Andreassen added  that Kodiak  had  undergone a  robust                                                                    
sales  tax review;  implementing a  new sales  tax would  be                                                                    
challenging.  He  moved  to  slide   16  and  addressed  the                                                                    
information for the City of Atka with a population of 54:                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
   The combined reductions and cost-shifting will mean that                                                                     
   the City of Atka anticipates:                                                                                                
      Potential staff reductions = 4                                                                                         
      Public Safety budget reduced  by 100%.  Atka has  a                                                                    
        VPSO through the regional tribal entity but provides                                                                    
        about $6,000 in additional support from City funds.                                                                     
      Public Works budget reduced by 40%                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen elaborated that while the tax base in Atka                                                                       
was limited, if the city taxed itself it would not cover                                                                        
the cost of implementing or managing tax collection.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:23:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen moved to slide 17 and reviewed information                                                                       
for Petersburg Borough:                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     The  combined reductions  and  cost-shifting will  mean                                                                    
     that the Petersburg Borough                                                                                                
     anticipates:                                                                                                               
         Property Taxes would need to increase by 1.7                                                                        
          mills in service Area 1 to offset the elimination                                                                     
          of the State school bond debt reimbursement.                                                                          
     The  current property  tax levy  for Education  of 4.35                                                                    
     mills would need to double  to make up the lost funding                                                                    
     from  the State.  Due to  the Borough's  tax cap  of 10                                                                    
     this would  not be possible  as we are already  at 9.25                                                                    
     for  school  and  general  services.  This  would  mean                                                                    
     drastic cuts to our school and local government,                                                                           
     including:                                                                                                                 
         Quality of Life programs potentially  eliminated                                                                    
          including our community aquatic center, reduced                                                                       
          hours to the library and to our Parks &                                                                               
          Recreation Department.                                                                                                
         Loss of School Activities (sports,  music, etc),                                                                    
          and increase in classroom sizes.                                                                                      
         Reduction of staff Borough wide (Borough, School                                                                    
          and Hospital).                                                                                                        
         Major rate increase for Harbor  moorage and  its                                                                    
          resulting impact on the economic engine of the                                                                        
          Borough.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen relayed that  the municipal impact statements                                                                    
bore  out  many  of  the   assumptions  earlier  on  in  the                                                                    
presentation   related  to   choices   available  to   local                                                                    
governments. He turned to slide  18 and reviewed information                                                                    
for the City of St. Paul:                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     The combined reductions and cost-shifting will mean                                                                        
     that the City of Saint Paul anticipates:                                                                                   
         Potential staff reductions of 3  to 4  full time                                                                    
          positions with a reduced work week from 40 hours                                                                      
          per                                                                                                                   
         week to 35 hour per week.                                                                                           
         Public Safety budget reduced by 7 to 11%.                                                                           
         Public Works budget reduced by 18 to 22%.                                                                           
         Travel and training  budgets reduced  by  90  to                                                                    
          100%.                                                                                                                 
         General fund capital improvement budget  reduced                                                                    
          by 100%.                                                                                                              
         Local sales tax would need to increase by  90 to                                                                    
          95% to offset these decisions.                                                                                        
         An increase in utility (electric,  water, sewer,                                                                    
          and refuse) rates to cover the administrative                                                                         
          costs for                                                                                                             
         operation of these utilities.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen concluded with the City and Borough of                                                                           
Yakutat and provided an excerpt from slide 19:                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     The combined reductions and cost shifting will mean                                                                        
     that the City and Borough of Yakutat anticipates:                                                                          
         Potential staff reductions = 3 of 17 or 17%                                                                         
          reduction in staff.                                                                                                   
         Public Safety budget reduced by 20%                                                                                 
         Public Works budget reduced by 20%                                                                                  
         Taxes would need to increase by 300% to offset                                                                      
          these decisions                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Andreassen  addressed  some solutions  that  AML  would                                                                    
suggest (slide 20). He shared  that in November and in prior                                                                    
years, AML  had supported  the option  of a  broad-based tax                                                                    
and  continued   to  believe  that  revenue   needed  to  be                                                                    
addressed at  the state level.  He elaborated that  AML also                                                                    
supported the  concept of a community  dividend. He believed                                                                    
both   items  were   outside  the   scope  of   the  current                                                                    
conversation,  but it  was  important for  AML  to be  clear                                                                    
about  its  support  for  the   items.  In  terms  of  local                                                                    
governments responding to the  state right-sizing or looking                                                                    
for efficiencies,  there were  a number  of areas  where the                                                                    
state  could  strengthen   local  governments.  He  reviewed                                                                    
options on the slide:                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     The  legislature can  strengthen  local governments  by                                                                    
     increasing local control:                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     1. Remove the  mandatory  senior  citizen  exemption  =                                                                    
        $84,684,847 (means-based local option)                                                                                  
     2. Remove exclusive  state authority  of  a net  income                                                                    
        tax, and restrictions on severance tax                                                                                  
     3. Require  mandatory   sales  disclosure   to  improve                                                                    
        accuracy and fairness of property tax                                                                                   
     4. Implement  transformation  over  a  reasonable  time                                                                    
        horizon to mitigate negative impacts                                                                                    
     5. Include municipal impact analysis  in budget process                                                                    
        and in legislative fiscal notes                                                                                         
     6. Remove  audit/financial  statement   requirement  in                                                                    
        Title 29                                                                                                                
     7. Negotiate with partners    subdivision  of resources                                                                    
        comes with the subdivision of sovereignty                                                                               
     8. Savings at one level of government should not signal                                                                    
        less responsibility at a higher level                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:27:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilson referenced  slide 19  on Yakutat  and asked                                                                    
for  confirmation that  there  was $637  per  person in  PCE                                                                    
funding [$351,731 divided by the population of 552].                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen  replied that he  had additional data  on PCE                                                                    
he would  provide. He noted that  the data on the  slide had                                                                    
come from the City and Borough of Yakutat.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilson  stated that  she was  using simple  math to                                                                    
make  a  calculation.  She  surmised   that  the  state  was                                                                    
providing  $562  per  person in  community  assistance.  She                                                                    
clarified that  she had used the  community assistance total                                                                    
of $310,615  divided by 552  [the number of  residents]. She                                                                    
asked if her calculations were a quick analysis.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen replied that was his understanding.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Josephson   asked   if   AML   would   have                                                                    
appreciated  an approach  that would  have involved  a grand                                                                    
summit in  a place like  the University of  Alaska Fairbanks                                                                    
that  touched  on  constitutional questions  and  a  broader                                                                    
discussion  about  hitting  the   reset  button  (which  the                                                                    
governor's  budget  did).  He wondered  if  AML  would  have                                                                    
appreciated  a broad  conversation  about the  role of  each                                                                    
government  rather  than  just  making the  changes  in  the                                                                    
budget.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Andreassen   replied  he  believed  the   dialogue  was                                                                    
critical for engaging stakeholders  and in bringing partners                                                                    
to  the  table.  He  believed the  scenario  highlighted  by                                                                    
Representative Josephson  would help contribute to  a shared                                                                    
vision and implementation.  He believed scenario development                                                                    
was a  good way to  evaluate a proposal like  the governor's                                                                    
budget. He stated that the work  could be done in a scenario                                                                    
like the one presented by Representative Josephson.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:29:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   LeBon  addressed   school  bond   debt  and                                                                    
recalled that most  of the bonds had been  voter approved at                                                                    
a  70/30  split.  He  asked  if  the  number  was  generally                                                                    
accurate.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen agreed. He noted  that some of the bonds were                                                                    
a 60/40 split.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative LeBon  asked if AML had  considered trying to                                                                    
hammer  out  a  compromise  instead  of  losing  the  entire                                                                    
reimbursement (e.g. a 50/50 split).                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Andreassen  replied that  the  state  could initiate  a                                                                    
conversation   about   reasonability   with   the   affected                                                                    
municipalities.  He  reported  the idea  was  something  AML                                                                    
would  be happy  to be  a part  of. He  thought perhaps  the                                                                    
dialogue would come  up in some of the  bill efforts related                                                                    
to school bond debt reimbursement.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Foster    thanked   Mr.   Andreassen    for   his                                                                    
presentation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
^CITY OF UNALASKA                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:31:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
FRANK KELTY,  MAYOR, CITY  OF UNALASKA,  introduced himself.                                                                    
He relayed that Unalaska was  the number one fishing port in                                                                    
the country;  the city  did well on  its revenues  from fish                                                                    
tax. He  shared that he  had lived  in the Aleutians  for 48                                                                    
years; he  had run  processing plants for  35 years  and had                                                                    
been  an elected  official for  over 25  years. He  reported                                                                    
that the current  budget was the toughest he  had ever seen.                                                                    
He  remarked that  one of  the governor's  goals was  no new                                                                    
taxes on Alaskans,  but the proposed budget  had shifted the                                                                    
total   burden  onto   the  communities,   which  he   found                                                                    
disappointing.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Kelty  reported that  the total  impact to  Unalaska was                                                                    
about $17  million. He detailed  that the state  shared fish                                                                    
tax was  a hit of  about $8 million  or about 26  percent of                                                                    
the city's  general fund revenue.  He relayed that  the loss                                                                    
would be  difficult for the  city to make up.  The community                                                                    
prided itself on  taking care of many things on  its own. He                                                                    
detailed  that the  community provided  $1.2 million  to its                                                                    
nonprofits  annually.   Many  of  the  nonprofits   took  on                                                                    
responsibilities that  had been  the state's concern  in the                                                                    
past.  He reported  it  had  been over  10  years since  the                                                                    
community had  a health  and human  services representative.                                                                    
He elaborated  that the women's  shelter was  heavily funded                                                                    
[by the  community], health and human  services, alcohol and                                                                    
drug  abuse  programs,  mental health  clinics,  and  public                                                                    
broadcasting. Additionally,  the city  had been  funding the                                                                    
school district at the cap amount for at least 30 years.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Kelty explained  that there  were two  primary pots  of                                                                    
money  related to  state  shared taxes  (there  was a  small                                                                    
third  pot  with  commerce).  First,  the  Alaska  fisheries                                                                    
business  tax  was  paid by  shore  plants  responsible  for                                                                    
processing fish  in the communities.  Second, the  3 percent                                                                    
resource  landing tax  (put forward  in  legislation in  the                                                                    
past by  former Representative  Carl Moses), which  was paid                                                                    
by people  processing at sea  (factory trawlers)  and shared                                                                    
with  the  community  where the  fish  product  was  landed.                                                                    
Unalaska was  the major  fishing port  in the  Aleutians off                                                                    
the Bering Sea; the city did well off of the revenue.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:35:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Kelty shared that Unalaska  had recently taken out a $40                                                                    
million  bond for  its commercial  shipping dock,  which the                                                                    
city was  taking care of on  its own. He continued  that the                                                                    
city took  care of road paving  and 25 years earlier  it had                                                                    
taken  over the  state-owned  small boat  harbors, which  it                                                                    
maintained.  Unalaska had  the largest  seafood industry  in                                                                    
the nation  and had to  provide water, sewer,  landfill, and                                                                    
wastewater.  The city  referred to  the items  as enterprise                                                                    
funds  -  the city  owned  all  of the  utilities.  Unalaska                                                                    
usually used  earnings reserves from  the funds  for capital                                                                    
projects. He  believed the  last time  the state  helped the                                                                    
city out  on a capital  project was  with a $10  million for                                                                    
the  Carl  Moses  Boat  Harbor;  it was  part  of  the  debt                                                                    
reimbursement program,  which still  had about  $6.6 million                                                                    
floating around.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Kelty pointed  out the  importance of  considering that                                                                    
fishing  communities around  the state  all had  local sales                                                                    
tax. Unalaska had  a 3 percent sales tax, a  property tax of                                                                    
almost 11  mills, a 2 percent  city landing tax on  raw fish                                                                    
(fish landed  in the community  at a processing  plant), all                                                                    
were over and  above the state's share.  He highlighted that                                                                    
the city was proud that it  was not scared of trying to take                                                                    
care of itself. The  fishery dependent communities in Alaska                                                                    
provided over 56  percent of the nation's  fish. He stressed                                                                    
that  a loss  of state  shared  fish tax  revenues would  be                                                                    
devastating to  many of the  communities. He  questioned how                                                                    
the  communities   would  support  the  industry   that  was                                                                    
critical  to Alaska  and the  nation. He  detailed that  the                                                                    
Trident  Seafoods plant  on Akutan  Island  was the  largest                                                                    
processing plant  in the nation.  He added that  Trident was                                                                    
the largest American-owned seafood company in the nation.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Kelty stressed  that the  impacts were  a big  deal. He                                                                    
underscored that fishery dependent  communities paid much of                                                                    
their own  way. Unalaska  was concerned  about how  it would                                                                    
take care of needed projects.  He reported the community was                                                                    
doing capital  projects and was  taking on the idea  of wind                                                                    
energy on  its own. The  community was also  considering the                                                                    
possibility  of a  geothermal  project  in partnership  with                                                                    
some private  investors in  the region, "to  try to  get off                                                                    
the diesel band wagon."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:39:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Kelty reported  that the $1,100 cut to  the Base Student                                                                    
Allocation (BSA)  would be  a 17  percent cut  to Unalaska's                                                                    
school budget.  He detailed  there were  two schools  in the                                                                    
community, both were  top notch with a total  budget of $7.7                                                                    
million.  He explained  that Unalaska  only had  reserves of                                                                    
$700,000  due  to  the  10 percent  cap.  He  stressed  that                                                                    
Unalaska  could not  make  up for  the  cut using  reserves.                                                                    
Currently,  the   school  district's  reserves   were  about                                                                    
$500,000 because  $200,000 had already been  used to balance                                                                    
the FY  20 budget. He stated  it was only possible  to cut a                                                                    
certain  number of  supplies. He  pointed out  that Unalaska                                                                    
was an island  in the middle of the Bering  Sea - its travel                                                                    
budget was  almost $500,000 for student  athletes, teachers,                                                                    
and for other extracurricular  activities. He noted that the                                                                    
school district  even helped to  fund bringing teams  to the                                                                    
community  in  order  to  have  a home  game.  The  cost  of                                                                    
roundtrip  airfare  from  Anchorage   to  Dutch  Harbor  was                                                                    
$1,100. He relayed it was  difficult to get anyone to travel                                                                    
to the community for games.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Kelty  continued that  a cut of  $1.3 million  meant the                                                                    
school  district   would  have   to  cut   positions,  raise                                                                    
classroom  sizes,  and revert  back  to  split classes.  The                                                                    
district  did  not  want  to  do any  of  those  things.  He                                                                    
highlighted that  the graduation rate was  almost 94 percent                                                                    
and the  high school  had been  named one  of the  best high                                                                    
schools in the country several  years back. He reported that                                                                    
the elementary school  had been a runner up for  the award a                                                                    
few  years  back. He  shared  that  the district  had  well-                                                                    
maintained facilities, which was taken  care of by the city.                                                                    
Additionally, the  city funded the food  service program for                                                                    
low income  students - the district  only received donations                                                                    
of  about 10  percent for  the  program. The  city paid  100                                                                    
percent for the preschool (families also made donations).                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Kelty  explained there was  a community  schools program                                                                    
to fund half  of the maintenance and  programs. He explained                                                                    
that because  the city  was already funding  at the  cap, it                                                                    
would  be  unable  to  help  the  school  district  increase                                                                    
revenues  if  it  took  a  cut like  the  one  proposed.  He                                                                    
reiterated  that the  district would  lose teachers,  staff,                                                                    
and  other positions.  He  did not  know  how the  community                                                                    
would be able to make it up.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:42:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Kelty stated that the cut  to the AMHS was another issue                                                                    
for the community. He reported  that Unalaska only had ferry                                                                    
service from May  to September twice a month.  The cut would                                                                    
mean no trips in September.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilson asked Mr. Kelty to wrap up.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Kelty shared  that the  total  impact of  the cuts  was                                                                    
about  $17 million.  Unalaska supported  funding for  public                                                                    
broadcasting; it was  located in the tsunami zone  and if it                                                                    
lost  its  local  radio  station  it  helped  to  fund,  the                                                                    
community  would  be  in  big  trouble.  Additionally,  debt                                                                    
reimbursement  was about  $6.6  million for  the Moses  Boat                                                                    
Harbor  and   about  $900,000  for  its   elementary  school                                                                    
bonding.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Knopp  asked if the $17  million included the                                                                    
general fund impact and school impact.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Kelty  replied that the amount  was everything combined.                                                                    
He  specified that  about $9  million was  related to  state                                                                    
shared fish taxes.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilson agreed that Unalaska had an amazing school.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
^ALEUTIANS EAST BOROUGH                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:44:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ALVIN OSTERBACK, MAYOR, ALEUTIANS  EAST BOROUGH, read from a                                                                    
prepared statement (copy not on file):                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     The  Aleutians  East  Borough is  responsible  for  the                                                                    
     municipal  governance for  the  communities of  Akutan,                                                                    
     Cold  Bay, False  Pass, King  Cove, Nelson  Lagoon, and                                                                    
     Sand Point. These  communities consist of approximately                                                                    
     3,141   residents  and   a   large  transient   fishing                                                                    
     population. The borough has  11 full-time employees who                                                                    
     fulfill the  obligations of local government.  Our only                                                                    
     local tax base  was raw fish tax. In FY  18 these taxes                                                                    
     were  48 percent  of our  total  budget; the  remaining                                                                    
     revenue  largely came  from state  and federal  funding                                                                    
     sources.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Based on  the governor's proposed  FY 20 budget  I have                                                                    
     highlighted  some of  the  impacts  his decisions  will                                                                    
     have  on  the borough  and  our  residents. Our  shared                                                                    
     fisheries  business  tax  comes to  approximately  $2.2                                                                    
     million  representing  28   percent  of  the  borough's                                                                    
     budget. Our  school bond debt  reimbursement for  FY 20                                                                    
     is anticipated to be $650,000,  which is 8.4 percent of                                                                    
     our budget and the total  debt outstanding is just over                                                                    
     $7.5   million,  which   would  fall   back  on   local                                                                    
     taxpayers. Our  harbor bond  debt reimbursement  for FY                                                                    
     20 is anticipated to be  $381,000, which is 4.9 percent                                                                    
     of our budget.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     The combined financial impact  based off the governor's                                                                    
     proposed  reductions  to the  borough  for  FY 20,  not                                                                    
     including  the  cuts  to the  K-12  foundation  formula                                                                    
     money,  is  a  decrease  of  over  40  percent  in  the                                                                    
     borough's  annual   operating  budget.  A   40  percent                                                                    
     reduction to  funding is a  hard obstacle  to overcome,                                                                    
     especially  when the  borough is  obligated to  pay for                                                                    
     education, bond  debt, and other items  the borough has                                                                    
     entered into agreements for. We  are obligated to pay a                                                                    
     minimum  of $517,000  for education  and our  bond debt                                                                    
     for FY  20 is $2,482,000;  that alone over  $3 million,                                                                    
     which is the  majority of our operating  budget, if the                                                                    
     proposed cuts go through.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     The borough  also takes lead  on many  capital projects                                                                    
     that  support  communities  and  commercial  fisheries.                                                                    
     These include, but are not  limited to, construction of                                                                    
     harbors,  docks,   and  clinics.  These   are  economic                                                                    
     drivers for  our community that improve  our residents'                                                                    
     quality  of life.  The borough  also provides  funds to                                                                    
     support  the link  between Akutan  and  the airport  on                                                                    
     Akun and to  the King Cove to Cold Bay  Road, which are                                                                    
     necessary transportation routes for both communities.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Dunleavy's   proposed  budget   puts   the  burden   on                                                                    
     municipal governments  to collect the revenues  that he                                                                    
     will  be cutting.  It will  be extremely  difficult for                                                                    
     many communities to make changes  in their existing tax                                                                    
     structures or  create a new revenue  source, especially                                                                    
     those whose fiscal years begin on July 1.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     The  Aleutians  East  Borough has  one  source  of  tax                                                                    
     revenue, which is  fish. We do not have  a property tax                                                                    
     and we  do not have a  sales tax, although many  of our                                                                    
     communities do;  therefore, raising  our tax base  in a                                                                    
     span  of a  few months  is next  to impossible.  So, to                                                                    
     accommodate the  proposed budget cuts we  would have to                                                                    
     make cuts  and diminish our services  that we currently                                                                    
     provide.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     The  governor's  proposed  reductions  also  negatively                                                                    
     impact our community.  Based off of the  FY 19 amounts,                                                                    
     the cuts  to the shared fisheries  business tax program                                                                    
     alone would  decrease some of our  communities' general                                                                    
     fund revenue  [indecipherable]: the City of  Akutan, 29                                                                    
     percent; City of  False Pass 7.5 percent;  City of Cold                                                                    
     Bay, 2.7  percent; City of  King Cove, 25  percent; and                                                                    
     the City  of Sand Point, 14  percent. These communities                                                                    
     cannot  sustain   a  reduction  like  this.   If  these                                                                    
     proposed  cuts go  through, as  well  as reductions  to                                                                    
     education,   Alaska   Marine    Highway   System,   the                                                                    
     University  of Alaska,  public broadcasting,  and other                                                                    
     items,  the services  the borough  and our  communities                                                                    
     can    provide   diminish    the   quality    of   life                                                                    
     significantly,  will decrease.  We  ask  that you  take                                                                    
     these impacts into consideration  as you go through the                                                                    
     budget process.  A municipality  such as  the Aleutians                                                                    
     East  Borough simply  cannot survive  if  a 40  percent                                                                    
     budget  cut occurs.  Thank you  for the  opportunity to                                                                    
     speak.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilson thanked Mr. Osterback for his testimony.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
^CITY OF VALDEZ                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:50:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRIAN  CARLSON,   FINANCE  DIRECTOR,   CITY  OF   VALDEZ,  a                                                                    
PowerPoint  presentation titled  "Valdez,  Alaska" (copy  on                                                                    
file)  that  modeled  the impact  of  the  proposed  budget,                                                                    
particularly  in relation  to the  change in  the method  of                                                                    
collection  of the  oil and  gas property  tax. He  detailed                                                                    
that the oil  and gas property tax accounted  for 80 percent                                                                    
of the  city's total  revenue. He began  with a  sampling of                                                                    
the many points of contact  between the municipality and the                                                                    
community stakeholders.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Carlson turned to slide  1 and explained that Valdez was                                                                    
a  full-service   government  in  an   unorganized  borough,                                                                    
meaning  the municipality  took on  many of  the traditional                                                                    
borough  responsibilities such  as  fire, emergency  medical                                                                    
services, and  police. Valdez was  home to  the Trans-Alaska                                                                    
Pipeline  System (TAPS)  Marine Terminal.  He reported  that                                                                    
Valdez  had  an  extensive partnership  with  industry  that                                                                    
extended  well beyond  its  relationship  with Alyeska.  The                                                                    
city supported  its local schools  to the cap and  was proud                                                                    
to have  some of the  best preforming schools in  the state.                                                                    
Additionally,   Valdez    supported   many   quality-of-life                                                                    
initiatives   including  cultural   services,  support   for                                                                    
nonprofit      organizations,      expensive      recreation                                                                    
infrastructure.  The  city was  also  a  willing partner  in                                                                    
cooperation  with state  and  federal governments  including                                                                    
the military.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:52:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Carlson  advanced to slide  2 showing  services provided                                                                    
by the city. He highlighted  the public safety and ports and                                                                    
harbors  categories showing  the many  support services  the                                                                    
city provided to industry  and other political subdivisions.                                                                    
He pointed out  that the city's suite  of education services                                                                    
and cultural services was robust.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Carlson moved  to slide 3 depicting  a representation of                                                                    
the  impact of  the proposed  method of  taxation. The  left                                                                    
portion of  the slide showed  an immediate reduction  of $38                                                                    
million  in city  revenue. The  right portion  of the  slide                                                                    
showed some of the impact  beyond the immediate reduction to                                                                    
the  city's  revenue.  He  reported   that  the  city's  few                                                                    
remaining  revenue  sources  would  also  experience  severe                                                                    
downward  pressure. He  elaborated  that there  would be  an                                                                    
exodus from  the city, which  would exert  downward pressure                                                                    
on  non-oil  and  gas property  values  and  the  associated                                                                    
revenue.  He stated  that the  picture started  off horrific                                                                    
and only worsened over time.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:54:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Carlson turned  to a chart on slide 4  titled "Impact to                                                                    
Fund Balances." The chart showed  the city's best efforts to                                                                    
manage  the  radical  downsizing   and  the  impact  on  its                                                                    
accumulated  fund   balances.  The  blue  line   showed  his                                                                    
proposed  downsizing model.  He noted  that a  downsizing of                                                                    
the  magnitude of  the governor's  proposed  budget did  not                                                                    
take place all at once; there  would be an unwinding. He had                                                                    
modeled a  five to  six-year reduction in  staff down  to 25                                                                    
percent  of  the  current  level.   He  reported  that  city                                                                    
government currently had 134 employees  and would need to be                                                                    
reduced  down  to  approximately   30  employees,  which  he                                                                    
characterized  as a  crash landing.  The green  area on  the                                                                    
graph  represented  the   city's  aggregate  fund  balances,                                                                    
excluding  the Permanent  Fund. The  best efforts  to manage                                                                    
the  scenario  would exhaust  the  city's  fund balances  by                                                                    
approximately 2025 and  yet the city would  continue to have                                                                    
annual eight-figure deficits.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Carlson highlighted slide 5  showing status quo services                                                                    
provided by  the fully funded community  [identical to slide                                                                    
2]. He turned to slide  6 showing services that would remain                                                                    
midway  through   the  hypothetical  downsizing   under  the                                                                    
governor's  proposed change  in the  method of  taxation. He                                                                    
emphasized  that the  remaining  skeletal community  picture                                                                    
did not  represent equilibrium, a  solved problem,  or long-                                                                    
term solvency. The picture  merely illustrated services that                                                                    
would remain  midway on the community's  path to bankruptcy.                                                                    
He communicated  that the dismal  trajectory applied  to the                                                                    
municipal government,  but on the micro-level  it applied to                                                                    
every  business owner  and household  in proportion  to what                                                                    
was shown  on the  slide. He  explained that  everyone fully                                                                    
invested in the community would be on a similar trajectory.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Carlson  addressed the proposed  change in  taxation. He                                                                    
suggested  that proponents  of the  measure viewed  it as  a                                                                    
zero sum game. He detailed  that revenue would move from one                                                                    
entity to  another entity  - one set  of books  looked worse                                                                    
and  the  recipient's set  of  books  would look  marginally                                                                    
better.  He  had  heard opponents  of  the  measure  detract                                                                    
somewhat from the  perceived benefit by pointing  out that a                                                                    
shift in revenue  would bring a shift  in obligations, which                                                                    
had  costs. He  explained it  would  begin to  eat into  the                                                                    
perceived benefit of the revenue shift.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:57:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Carlson  offered another  point that  further diminished                                                                    
the  idea.  He  stated   the  idea  was  capital,  including                                                                    
accumulated value  and capacity and potential.  He explained                                                                    
that capital is comprised  of financial resources and things                                                                    
built below and above the  ground. Additionally, there was a                                                                    
difficult to  quantify, intangible category of  capital. The                                                                    
intangible  factors tied  the  larger  picture together.  He                                                                    
explained  that  for  the  City  of  Valdez  and  the  other                                                                    
communities  along  the  pipeline  corridor,  capital  would                                                                    
evaporate in  the course of  managing the crash  landing. He                                                                    
furthered that  the capital  would not  be shifting  to some                                                                    
future oriented  productive use,  it would simply  be burned                                                                    
up in  the radical change  to the communities' way  of life.                                                                    
He argued that  the sums involved in the  erosion of capital                                                                    
far exceeded the proposed revenue  shift contemplated in the                                                                    
budget.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:59:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Sullivan-Leonard  asked   for  the   city's                                                                    
population, mill rate, annual revenue, and annual budget.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Carlson  replied that the official  population count was                                                                    
3,950 (give  or take  20). The  annual general  fund revenue                                                                    
and budget was approximately $54 million.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Sullivan-Leonard asked for the mill rate.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Carlson  responded that  the city's  rate was  20 mills,                                                                    
which applied to industry and non-oil and gas properties.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Sullivan-Leonard  looked at a graph  on slide                                                                    
4 and asked  if the city's fund balance was  $125 million in                                                                    
a reserve account.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Carlson  answered that  the total  was a  combination of                                                                    
general  fund  balance,  project  and  other  reserves,  and                                                                    
enterprise  funds. He  noted that  the  disposition of  more                                                                    
than  60 percent  of the  fund balance  in current  year was                                                                    
only recently settled in the  city's favor. He stated it was                                                                    
natural for the city to retain  the balances while it took a                                                                    
long-term  planning process.  He reiterated  that the  funds                                                                    
had been in dispute until  recently - there was a tremendous                                                                    
downside if the  decision had been not in  the city's favor.                                                                    
He explained that the funds  reflected a significant portion                                                                    
of the fund balance shown in green [on slide 4].                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:01:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Merrick  looked at slide 6  and observed that                                                                    
airport terminal  support and Ravn  Airlines were  listed as                                                                    
items that  would not sustain  the proposed cuts.  She asked                                                                    
if the two  items were related. She asked if  Ravn was owned                                                                    
by the city  and if other operators would  provide access to                                                                    
Valdez. She knew that the pass was often snowed-in.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Carlson answered  that Ravn  Airlines operated  through                                                                    
the state-owned  airport, which was  leased by the  city and                                                                    
subleased to various service providers.  The city would have                                                                    
to  cease  its terminal  operation.  He  continued that  the                                                                    
ensuing  exodus from  the city  would mean  the air  traffic                                                                    
would no longer pencil out.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Merrick  asked   if  Ravn   was  the   only                                                                    
commercial airline flying to Valdez.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Carlson answered in the affirmative.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  pointed to service  facilities and                                                                    
tanker contingency dock under  the Ports and Harbor category                                                                    
(slide  6), which  he understood  was related  to oil  spill                                                                    
contingency. He asked if the  city paid for some features of                                                                    
oil spill mitigation and protection.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Carlson characterized the related  costs as indirect and                                                                    
costs  related   to  the  capacity  of   having  the  needed                                                                    
infrastructure  and to  be able  to provide  first responder                                                                    
services. He shared that he  was not a subject matter expert                                                                    
on  all  of  the  many  complex  relationships  in  the  oil                                                                    
response  structures. He  offered to  follow up  with better                                                                    
detail.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson   asked  if  the  city   had  some                                                                    
unreimbursed  share  of  responsibility for  regulation  and                                                                    
care  of  the port  facility  and  the  transport of  oil  -                                                                    
meaning if  the city did not  do anything, there would  be a                                                                    
difference in standard.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Carlson  answered  in   the  affirmative,  though  city                                                                    
financial  resources did  not flow  directly  to the  marine                                                                    
terminal,  but   the  city  spent   its  own   resources  on                                                                    
interrelated  support, backup,  and responder  services. The                                                                    
city spent  its own resources  to keep the services  in good                                                                    
order. Aside  from standard  things like  debt reimbursement                                                                    
for  projects, there  was no  direct reimbursement  from the                                                                    
state or elsewhere.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Knopp  referenced  Mr.  Carlson's  testimony                                                                    
that  the petroleum  tax  accounted for  80  percent of  the                                                                    
city's  budget and  that the  city's  mill rate  was 20.  He                                                                    
noted  that the  city  had quite  a  bit of  infrastructure,                                                                    
business properties  and personal  properties that  were all                                                                    
taxed at 20 mills. He  was surprised that revenue from those                                                                    
properties only made up 20  percent of the city's budget. He                                                                    
thought there had  to be a substantial  assessment value for                                                                    
the City of Valdez.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:06:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Carlson answered  that the assessed value of  all of the                                                                    
taxable properties  was made  up of 90  percent oil  and gas                                                                    
properties and 10 percent to  non-oil and gas properties. He                                                                    
reported that  property tax  revenue was  90 percent  of the                                                                    
city-wide revenue  picture. He  detailed that 90  percent of                                                                    
90 percent yielded an 80  percent figure attributable to the                                                                    
marine  terminal  and  the related  [Alaska  Statute]  43.56                                                                    
properties.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilson thanked Mr. Carlson for his testimony.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
^MAT-SU BOROUGH                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:07:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Sullivan-Leonard  disclosed that  her husband                                                                    
served on the Mat-Su Borough Assembly.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
VERN HALTER, MAYOR,  MAT-SU BOROUGH, shared that  it was his                                                                    
tenth  budget cycle  with the  borough -  he had  served six                                                                    
years  on  the   assembly  and  four  years   as  mayor.  He                                                                    
communicated that  the proposed budget  would be one  of the                                                                    
more trying ones  for the borough to balance  its budget on.                                                                    
He  added that  Governor  Mike Dunleavy  was  not the  first                                                                    
governor to  shift costs  of school  bond debt.  The borough                                                                    
had  received a  $5.7  million shift  under former  Governor                                                                    
Bill Walker  several years back. He  explained that although                                                                    
the  shift had  come  after the  borough's  budget had  been                                                                    
solidified,  it  had  been  able to  absorb  the  costs.  He                                                                    
stressed  that  times  had changed.  He  reported  that  the                                                                    
borough's tax  cap was 10.5  mills. He detailed that  in the                                                                    
preceding year  the borough had  budgeted the rate  at 10.33                                                                    
mills. He  explained that if  the bond shift was  almost $20                                                                    
million  for the  borough, it  would  be close  to 2  mills,                                                                    
meaning Mat-Su would exceed its tax cap almost immediately.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Halter continued  that additionally there would  be a $5                                                                    
million  to  $6 million  reduction  in  other areas  in  the                                                                    
school allocation  funding of almost $40  million. He stated                                                                    
that  he  had  confidence  in the  legislative  session.  He                                                                    
recalled that in 2015/2016, there  had also been a difficult                                                                    
budget.  He stated  that sometimes  the borough  just needed                                                                    
time to  understand what  the legislature's  decisions were.                                                                    
He elaborated that the budget  process could take until June                                                                    
including the governor's veto  process and the legislature's                                                                    
override process. He  shared that by state  law, the borough                                                                    
was required to  close out its budget and  issue tax notices                                                                    
by  July  1. He  stressed  it  was  very difficult  for  the                                                                    
borough  to make  tough budget  decisions  and solidify  its                                                                    
budget when the state's budget  had not yet been determined.                                                                    
He asked  the legislature to  work on the budget  as quickly                                                                    
as possible.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Halter  believed the  borough could  handle some  of the                                                                    
cost-shifting,   but  the   total  amount   would  be   very                                                                    
difficult.  He  explained  that  Mat-Su  was  a  residential                                                                    
property tax borough.  The borough also had  a cigarette tax                                                                    
bringing in  $8 million  and a  bed tax  that brought  in $1                                                                    
million; it also had a  gasoline tax. The areawide mill rate                                                                    
was  10.5 and  the  non-areawide rate  was  six-tenths of  a                                                                    
mill.  He reported  there were  also fire  service and  road                                                                    
service areas; the  rate was 14 to 18  mills including those                                                                    
areas  as  well.  He  stated  that  the  work  done  by  the                                                                    
legislature was critical  to the borough to  try to maintain                                                                    
its residential  property taxes. He shared  that the borough                                                                    
was growing  by 2,500  people per year  and currently  had a                                                                    
population of  110,000. He reported that  some statisticians                                                                    
projected  the  population  would  be 125,000  by  2025.  He                                                                    
elaborated  that schools  the borough  had built  with bonds                                                                    
were now at capacity with portable annex buildings outside.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Halter continued  that  the borough  also  had to  fund                                                                    
roads, emergencies, and ambulances  as well. He stressed his                                                                    
concern about  those items.  He shared  there had  been four                                                                    
deadly  road accidents  in  the past  month  in Mat-Su.  The                                                                    
borough  wanted  to  grow  its  emergency  services  as  its                                                                    
population  increased.  He  underscored  that  some  of  the                                                                    
interior roads  were horrible. The  borough had a  road bond                                                                    
package that was  50/50 with the state. He  argued that some                                                                    
of  the costs  for schools  that were  being shifted  to the                                                                    
borough were  critical to  the borough.  He shared  that the                                                                    
borough had a  AA bond rating with Fitch  and Moody's, which                                                                    
it was  proud of. He  emphasized that the borough  would pay                                                                    
its bond  debt. He  stated that  if the  legislature figured                                                                    
out the  state budget, the  borough would "get it  done." He                                                                    
thanked the committee for its time.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:11:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN MOOSEY, BOROUGH MANAGER,  MAT-SU BOROUGH, commented the                                                                    
governor's  proposed cut  to the  Mat-Su  Borough was  about                                                                    
34.6  percent. The  allocation to  the schools  would be  16                                                                    
percent. He  reported there  was approximately  $200 million                                                                    
left  on  the  school  bond debt  reimbursement  bond;  with                                                                    
interest, it would be a  shift of approximately $300 million                                                                    
to the  borough. He  shared that  in 2011  there had  been a                                                                    
large  student   crunch;  the  community  had   reported  to                                                                    
taxpayers that  the state  would pick up  70 percent  of the                                                                    
cost  to build  six schools  and upgrade  many others.  Well                                                                    
over  60 percent  of  borough residents  had  voted for  the                                                                    
70/30  deal. The  borough had  been very  disappointed three                                                                    
years back when former Governor  Walker had cut "5.7," which                                                                    
the borough had  been able to deal  with through reductions.                                                                    
He  thought the  message to  citizens was  it was  a switch;                                                                    
there had been  agreement on the bill, but  now the proposal                                                                    
meant the  borough would be  responsible for picking  up all                                                                    
of the funds. He thought  it hurt the trust established with                                                                    
citizens.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Moosey reported that the  hit the borough could take was                                                                    
smaller than  what Mr. Halter believed.  He implored members                                                                    
to  look  at  the  message   being  sent  to  taxpayers.  He                                                                    
appreciated the difficult work done by the legislature.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Halter  agreed with  Mr.  Moosey.  He stated  that  the                                                                    
challenge of the  school bond debt combined  with the school                                                                    
funding was about $60 million for the Mat-Su Borough.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Halter congratulated the recent Iditarod winners.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:14:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon   referenced  the  school   bond  debt                                                                    
reimbursement and  asked if there  had been language  in the                                                                    
bond put  before voters specifying that  reimbursement of 70                                                                    
percent was subject to annual appropriation.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Halter replied in the  affirmative. The bond had gone to                                                                    
the voters specifying an annual appropriation of 70/30.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative LeBon recalled the  same language when he had                                                                    
been  on  the  Fairbanks  School  Board.  He  asked  if  the                                                                    
borough's  revenue cap  allowed  the borough  to absorb  and                                                                    
increase  its  cap  if the  reimbursement  was  modified  to                                                                    
50/50.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Halter  answered in the  affirmative. The  borough could                                                                    
go above its  mill rate cap of 10.5 (the  borough had a mill                                                                    
rate tax cap,  not a revenue cap); however, he  did not want                                                                    
that to happen.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon understood  the reluctance  but stated                                                                    
it could be done.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Halter agreed.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilson  thanked  the  presenters.  She  noted  the                                                                    
legislature was aiming to be finished no later than May 15.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
^NORTH SLOPE BOROUGH                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:16:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
FADIL  LIMANI,  DEPUTY  DIRECTOR  OF  FINANCE,  NORTH  SLOPE                                                                    
BOROUGH,  a  PowerPoint  presentation  titled  "North  Slope                                                                    
Borough" dated  March 18, 2019  (copy on file). He  began on                                                                    
slide 2  of the  presentation related  to the  foundation of                                                                    
the borough. He detailed that  the foundation of the borough                                                                    
was attributed to the vision  and leadership of the founding                                                                    
father,  Eben  Hopson Sr.  as  prescribed  in the  borough's                                                                    
municipal charter preamble:                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     We,  the People  of the  North Slope  Borough area,  in                                                                    
     order to  form an  efficient and  economical government                                                                    
     with  just  representation,  and in  order  to  provide                                                                    
     local government responsive to  the will of the people,                                                                    
     and  to the  continuing  needs of  the communities,  do                                                                    
     hereby ratify  and establish this Home  Rule Charter of                                                                    
     the North Slope Borough of Alaska.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:17:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Limani moved to slide 3  and provided an overview of the                                                                    
borough.  The  borough  was   the  most  northern  municipal                                                                    
government in  the United  States, comprised  of an  area of                                                                    
approximately 95,000  square miles  in the Arctic  Circle of                                                                    
northern Alaska.  The borough was  larger than 40  states in                                                                    
the U.S. and represented about 15 percent of Alaska's total                                                                     
land. He read from slide 3:                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
      The Borough extends 650 miles from Point Hope on the                                                                   
        Chukchi Sea  to the  Canadian border  and 225  miles                                                                    
        south from Point Barrow.                                                                                                
      Most of the Borough's residents reside in eight                                                                        
        communities:  Utqiagvik,  Anaktuvuk  Pass,  Atqasuk,                                                                    
        Kaktovik, Point Hope, Nuiqsut, Wainwright, and Point                                                                    
        Lay.                                                                                                                    
      The Borough's total population as of Jan. 1, 2019                                                                      
        was 16,302                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Limani elaborated that the  16,302 population figure was                                                                    
for   tax   gap   purposes.   The   local   population   was                                                                    
approximately  9,500 and  the  remainder  accounted for  the                                                                    
transient workers in the oil patch.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:19:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Limani briefly highlighted a map of the borough on                                                                          
slide 4. He advanced to borough governance slide 5:                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
      The Borough was incorporated on July 2, 1972 and                                                                       
        adopted its home-rule charter in 1974, giving it the                                                                    
        ability to  exercise  any  power not  prohibited  by                                                                    
        State law, in  addition to  its mandatory  powers of                                                                    
        taxation,  property   assessment,   education,   and                                                                    
        planning/zoning services.                                                                                               
      Legislative power of the Borough is vested in the                                                                      
        Assembly,  which  now  consists  of  eleven  members                                                                    
        elected to staggered three-year terms.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:19:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Limani reviewed borough services on slide 6:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     The Borough is a full-service municipality, providing                                                                      
     a variety of services including:                                                                                           
         education                                                                                                           
         police and fire protection                                                                                          
         search and rescue services                                                                                          
         sewer and sewage treatment facilities                                                                               
         health services and clinic facilities                                                                               
         light, power, water, and heat                                                                                       
         garbage and solid waste collection (among others)                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Limani  reported that  the borough  was comprised  of 14                                                                    
departments  including   administration  and   finance,  the                                                                    
mayor's office,  search and rescue, police,  fire, wildlife,                                                                    
and many others.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Limani moved  to slide  7 and  shared that  the current                                                                    
mayor's  vision emulated  the  founding  father's vision  by                                                                    
providing  a  solid foundation  and  stable  outlook on  the                                                                    
borough's  finances  and  continuing  to  work  towards  the                                                                    
founding   father's   vision   of   self-determination   and                                                                    
sustainability   of  the   home-rule   government  for   the                                                                    
betterment of  the borough's  people. The  mayor's objective                                                                    
was to  strive towards  the sheer  basic necessities  of the                                                                    
villages across the  North Slope where some  of the services                                                                    
were taken for granted in established cities.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:21:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Limani   turned  to  a  table   showing  the  borough's                                                                    
projected  resources  for  FY  20  on  slide  8.  The  slide                                                                    
demonstrated  that the  borough's  property  taxes were  the                                                                    
most   significant  portion   of   its   total  revenue   at                                                                    
$378,490,000 for  FY 19  to FY  20. Other  revenues included                                                                    
federal and  state grants, charges for  services, investment                                                                    
income, other revenue comprised of  payment in lieu of taxes                                                                    
(PILT) primarily  with the oil  industry. Total  revenue was                                                                    
$402,359,380.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Limani reviewed  the  borough's projected  expenditures                                                                    
for FY 20  comprised of the borough  departments, support to                                                                    
the school district, the tribal  college, transfers from the                                                                    
general fund to  the enterprise funds, and  debt service. He                                                                    
reported the borough  had a statutory cap  on operations and                                                                    
debt service  (debt service accounted for  $85 million). The                                                                    
total   operating   expenditures   were   $402,359,380.   He                                                                    
highlighted   that  of   the   $253   million  for   borough                                                                    
departments,    40     percent    represented    contractual                                                                    
obligations. He elaborated  that in essence it  went to show                                                                    
the    borough's    ability    to    utilize    contractors,                                                                    
professionals, and  many other businesses outside  the North                                                                    
Slope in an effort to  provide its continuing services. Some                                                                    
of  the contractual  obligations  were  necessary to  create                                                                    
efficiencies within the borough's government.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:23:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Limani addressed the impacts  of the governor's proposed                                                                    
budget on the borough on slide 10:                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
      The Governor's FY20 budget proposal would "Decimate"                                                                   
        the North Slope Borough as a result of repealing the                                                                    
        levy of tax surrounding the oil and gas properties.                                                                     
      95-97% of NSB Tax Base is Oil and Gas Infrastructure                                                                   
      The Borough is subject to an operating tax cap and                                                                     
        does not have other assets to tax to make up the                                                                        
        difference of loss revenues                                                                                             
      The Borough does not have the ability to eliminate                                                                     
        programs at any level to conform to such legislation                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Limani  elaborated  on  the   third  bullet  point  and                                                                    
reported that most  of the tax base was  comprised of Native                                                                    
allotments that were not subject to tax.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:24:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilson handed the gavel to Vice-Chair Johnston.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Limani  continued to  review slide  10. He  expounded on                                                                    
the fourth bullet  point and explained that  the borough did                                                                    
not have  the reserves the  Office of Management  and Budget                                                                    
director  believed it  had. The  borough's  net assets  were                                                                    
primarily  comprised  of  long-lived assets  that  were  not                                                                    
easily convertible into cash to  offset its operating needs.                                                                    
He reported  that the  borough's use  of the  Permanent Fund                                                                    
was established  in 1984 for  the sole purpose  of operating                                                                    
as a savings account when  the oil and gas resources deplete                                                                    
to  offset  some  of  the basic  needs  across  North  Slope                                                                    
communities.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:24:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Limani  advanced  to  the   borough's  impacts  of  the                                                                    
governor's proposed budget on slide 11:                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
      The proposed legislation does not conform to Federal                                                                   
        and State constitution                                                                                                  
          o NSB pledged their "full faith and credit"                                                                           
             including Ad valorem taxes on property within                                                                      
             the Borough to secure and pay for general                                                                          
             obligation bonds                                                                                                   
               square4 Current outstanding    debt     (P+I)                                                                    
                  $251,431,154                                                                                                  
               square4 Enacting such legislation would "impair"                                                                 
                  contractual obligations of the bonds                                                                          
      Such proposed legislation would impede the Borough                                                                     
        from fulfilling its Pension and OPEB obligations                                                                        
          o NSB's share of Net Pension and OPEB liability                                                                       
             $150,693,191                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Limani  elaborated  on  the  fourth  bullet  point  and                                                                    
reported  that  impairing  contractual  obligations  of  the                                                                    
bonds   was  in   violation  of   the   state  and   federal                                                                    
constitutions.  He  addressed  the  pension  obligation  and                                                                    
other post-employment benefits (OPEB).  He shared that prior                                                                    
to 2008,  most of the municipalities  had individual pension                                                                    
plans  and  were  required to  contribute  to  whatever  the                                                                    
contribution rate  needed to be.  He elaborated that  a bill                                                                    
had been  adopted in  2008 that  converted the  pension plan                                                                    
into  a  cost  sharing  plan,   which  enabled  all  of  the                                                                    
participants  to  contribute to  a  maximum  of 22  percent.                                                                    
Annually,  there was  an actuarial  valuation determined  on                                                                    
the plan assets to see  if there was additional contribution                                                                    
beyond  the  22  percent;  in  most  cases  there  was.  The                                                                    
shortfall  had  been called  a  special  provision that  the                                                                    
state helped fulfill.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Limani continued  that there had been a  couple of bills                                                                    
a few years back that  had contributed about $1 billion into                                                                    
Public Employees'  Retirement System  (PERS) and  $2 billion                                                                    
into  Teachers'  Retirement  System (TRS)  that  had  helped                                                                    
increase  funding levels  of the  plan assets.  He explained                                                                    
that with the adoption  of Governmental Accounting Standards                                                                    
Board  (GASB) 67,  68, and  75  with OPEB,  the borough  was                                                                    
required  to show  its unfunded  commitments in  the balance                                                                    
sheet  of the  governmental-wide  statements. The  borough's                                                                    
share   of  the   net  pension   and   OPEB  liability   was                                                                    
$150,693,191.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:27:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Limani  moved to slide  12 and continued to  address the                                                                    
impacts of the governor's proposed budget on the borough:                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Governor's proposal surrounding the reduction in                                                                           
     Baseline Student Allocation creates a burden for the                                                                       
     Borough in the amount of $4,511,923 for FY20.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Limani  reported that the  borough provided  the highest                                                                    
funding to  its school  districts - approximately  twice the                                                                    
state's   contribution.  He   addressed   the  school   debt                                                                    
reimbursement  program  and   detailed  that  currently  the                                                                    
Department  of   Education  and  Early   Development  (DEED)                                                                    
reimbursed the borough on one  project - design work for the                                                                    
Meade  River  School comprised  in  the  2014 B  bonds.  The                                                                    
borough had approximately $65.9  million in capital projects                                                                    
for   schools,  which   were  eligible   for  reimbursement;                                                                    
however,  DEED  had not  reimbursed  the  borough since  its                                                                    
issuance  of 2004  bonds  with the  exception  of the  Meade                                                                    
River work.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Limani discussed that several  years earlier there was a                                                                    
suspension of the school debt  reimbursement program for new                                                                    
projects. He  explained the change did  not necessarily mean                                                                    
a  school  had its  lights  turned  off. He  expounded  that                                                                    
schools in  the Arctic saw substantial  deterioration due to                                                                    
the  environment  and the  borough  had  continued to  issue                                                                    
general obligation bonds to  keep the infrastructure intact.                                                                    
The   borough's   total   cost  over   the   timeframe   was                                                                    
$131,509,000.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Limani addressed  the borough's support to  the state on                                                                    
slide 13:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
      Since inception, the Borough has continued to be the                                                                   
        solution in fulfilling the needs and obligations of                                                                     
        the State across the North Slope by providing the                                                                       
        following services on its behalf:                                                                                       
          o Education, Public Safety, Fire, Correctional                                                                        
             Facilities,   Search   and    Rescue,   Health,                                                                    
             Permitting, Roads and etc. Approx. $175 million                                                                    
             annually in operating funds.*                                                                                      
      The Borough receives little to no support for such                                                                     
        services                                                                                                                
      In FY18, the Borough received approx. $7.5 million                                                                     
        from the State in the form of Grants.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
        *Does not include capital infrastructure                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Johnston handed the gavel to Co-Chair Foster.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:30:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Limani concluded his presentation with slide 14:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
      The Borough has not levied taxes to is full taxing                                                                     
        authority, resulting in significant resources to the                                                                    
        State.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Limani expounded that the  fact that the borough had not                                                                    
levied taxes  to its full taxing  authority was attributable                                                                    
to  its  financial   conservatism,  fiscal  discipline,  and                                                                    
ability  to  manage  its  resources  within  its  means.  He                                                                    
detailed that  in the past  30 years the state  had received                                                                    
in  excess of  $643 million  in  which the  borough had  not                                                                    
levied to its  full taxing capacity of 20  mills. The amount                                                                    
represented about 10 percent of  the borough's annual budget                                                                    
for the past 30 years. He continued reviewing slide 14:                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
          o Over the last 3 budget cycles, the Borough has                                                                      
             reduced its mill rate to 17.99  in an effort to                                                                    
             provide additional  resources to  the State  to                                                                    
             offset some of  its fiscal challenges.  The .51                                                                    
             mill has resulted in approx. $35 million to the                                                                    
             State over this time frame.                                                                                        
          o As a result of the State's budget crisis over                                                                       
             the last 4  yrs., the  Borough entered  into an                                                                    
             MOU  with  DOR  and  has  provided  significant                                                                    
             financial  resources  for  the  Assessment  and                                                                    
             Audit Functions  of  the  State  for  AS  43.56                                                                    
             properties.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Limani expounded  on the last bullet point  on slide 14.                                                                    
Over  the past  four  years the  borough  provided close  to                                                                    
$500,000  to $700,000  to the  Department of  Revenue in  an                                                                    
effort to  avoid disrupting the  assessment function  of oil                                                                    
and gas properties.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Limani shared  that the  North Slope  Borough had  been                                                                    
without  a  state trooper  office  for  the past  30  years.                                                                    
Several years back, through the  state, the borough had been                                                                    
able  to  provide  funding  for  a  district  attorney.  The                                                                    
borough  was the  largest employer  in the  North Slope  and                                                                    
eliminating 1,500  employees as  a result of  the governor's                                                                    
proposed  budget would  go beyond  the  livelihood of  those                                                                    
communities.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster  thanked  the presenter.  He  reviewed  the                                                                    
schedule for the following day.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:33:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 3:33 p.m.                                                                                          

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